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标题: PTC Lightning: Prelude to PTC Creo 1.0详细图文介绍！！！ [打印本页]
作者: flywee    时间: 2010-10-29 16:33
标题: PTC Lightning: Prelude to PTC Creo 1.0详细图文介绍！！！


Introducing Creo, PTC's new brand that will eventually replace the company 's current brands: Pro/E, CoCreate, and ProductView


Creo 1.0 is expected to debut in mid-2011.

It’s a clear blue day in Boston, with a few precipitation in the air. At the Park Plaza Castle, a 14,000 sq. ft. exhibit hall in the heart of Boston, the forecast calls for lightning, with lots of anticipation. For the past several months, PTC has been in a stealth mode, giving away teasers about its Project Lightning but keeping its details under wrap. Today at 10 AM Eastern Time, Lightning strikes, in a manner of speaking.
PTC Lightning brings in a season of change, beginning with a significant reshuffling of the company’s major brands. On the way out are three household names: Pro/ENGINEER, CoCreate, and ProductView. They’re to be replaced by Creo Elements/Pro, Creo Elements/Direct, and Creo Elements/View.
Creo represents “PTC’s vision for the next 20 years of mechanical design,” said Brian Shepherd, PTC’s executive VP of product development. Instead of a single software platform, Creo is “a suite of interoperable, role-specific applications designed from the groundup to be an open system,” he added.
PTC Creo, Marked for Mid-2011
The first phase of PTC Lightning is a simple renaming of its products, effective immediately. This is to be followed by the release of Creo 1.0, scheduled for the middle of 2011, closely followed by Creo 2.0. This new “clean-architecture product,” said Shepherd, “is the one that will solve all the unsolved problems [in product development].”
The unsolved problems, as listed by PTC’ new CEO Jim Heppelmann (he officially took over from Richard Harrison this month), are usability, interoperability, and large assembly management. (For more, read “PTC User World Event” report, June 8, 2010.)
Creo is not an all-encompassing “big, gigantic, monolithic product,” Shepherd said. It’s to serve as a platform, upon which user can add on AnyRole apps (apps suitable for individual roles). “We really like this Apple analogy — there’s an app for that,” he explained.
AnyRole, AnyMode, AnyData, AnyBOM
Neither PTC’s parametric powerhouse Pro/E nor its direct modeler CoCreate will serve as the native format for Creo. Creo will use a new patent-pending data model as its native format, allowing parametric and direct geometry to be exchanged. Creo will allow what PTC calls AnyMode modeling, to accommodate both parametric and direct modeling methods. Creo is expected to support both Pro/E and CoCreate models as customers gradually migrate to the new apps.
The user interface for Creo will look like neither Pro/E nor CoCreate, explained Shepherd. In fact, Creo’s interface may look different from user to user, based on the role he or she has chosen. Accordingly, available Creo apps will vary in price, ranging from premium pricing to free, based on its complexity or simplicity. Available apps will include dedicated 2D modeling, subdivision modeling, rendering, numeric controlled machining, simulation, visualization and markup, among others.
Whereas Pro/E’s emphasis, as with any parametric modeler, is on the recipe for the model (the historical steps required to generate the model), Creo’s emphasis is on geometry. Parametric or feature-based modeling will still be available, but it’ll be a means to an end, not the primary focus of the software. The demonstration shows Creo Elements/Pro users and Creo Elements/Direct users easily exchanging and modifying models created in each other’s programs.
One area that PTC felt has always been neglected is assembly management, or (to be more precise) configuration management. With Creo, you’ll be able to record, chart out, and manage different product configurations in a flowchart-like interface. PTC also plans to let Creo users interact with different geometry created in other programs by converting them to a Creo-adoptable format.
App Developers Wanted
To foster a large Creo ecosystem, PTC plans to offer its development partners access to Creo’s common data model and app templates, allowing them to develop and offer Creo-like apps targeted at specific industries and markets beyond PTC’s core expertise. It’s not yet clear how PTC plans to distribute these applications or how much they’ll be licensed for.
With Creo’s approach, Heppelmann is confident, “We will not lose an ease-of-use battle for some time now … Power users get power; casual users get simplicity.”
PTC’s Creo product suite is a major shakeup for the company itself. For the past two decades, PTC has been a fervent champion of parametric modeling, or history-based modeling. The company is, in fact, credited with being a parametric pioneer. But its acquisition of CoCreate, a direct modeling CAD software, opened its eyes to new possibilities, admitted Heppelmann.
The smaller Apple-style apps are expected to appeal to a new generation of software users who come to rely on iPhone and iPad as their primary communication and collaboration devices. The  breakup of a parametric program into smaller apps may also reduce the learning curve, one of the major barriers for 3D CAD adoption.
As newcomers like SpaceClaim grabs market share, as established vendors like Autodesk and Siemens PLM begin nurturing their own direct modeling products, traditional history-based modelers like Pro/E face immense pressure to evolve. For PTC, a company deeply rooted in parametric modeling with 25,000 customers, shifting gear is no easy task. So there’s a lot riding on Creo. But there’s also a lot to gain, since Creo could put PTC on the radar of many small and mid-size businesses that view Pro/E as an overly complex solution to relatively straightforward design problems.
PTC’s dedicated site: https://creo/ptc.com.
Managing editor Jamie Gooch’s report on the launch event: PTC Reveals Project Lightning as Creo

Creo app window for simulation and analysis.


Creo app window for rendering.


Creo in NC mode (left) and subdivision modeling mode (right).

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本帖最后由 flywee 于 2010-10-29 16:41 编辑
作者: 上边痛    时间: 2010-10-29 16:37
好像就是PROE6.0。。。
作者: wyf0710    时间: 2010-10-29 23:02
看好细分建模，类似烤鸭IMA，就差油鸡木有类似功能了
作者: Mcuikai    时间: 2010-10-30 00:09
感觉ptc终于有点创新的产品了，希望能再续proe的辉煌！
作者: xiamen_guo    时间: 2010-10-30 09:07
wyf0710 发表于 2010-10-29 23:02
看好细分建模，类似烤鸭IMA，就差油鸡木有类似功能了
软件下来以后就知道有没有啦
作者: L'Hopital    时间: 2010-10-30 10:02
wyf0710 发表于 2010-10-29 23:02
看好细分建模，类似烤鸭IMA，就差油鸡木有类似功能了

通篇都没看到什么细分建模呀？
话说那是3DSMAX做人物的东东呀，用在工程工业软件上有多大意义？
作者: Mcuikai    时间: 2010-10-30 10:16
可以去看看ptc的网上直播，其中确实有类似catia的ima功能，演示的是做汽车方向盘的塑料包覆件，估计现在也只是具备雏形，确实比较吸引眼球，有多大意义倒不好说，或者是以后的一个方向也说不定，呵呵！
作者: constantinople    时间: 2010-10-30 10:52
好漂亮。
LS，IMA是什么呀，能提供连接吗，PTC和CATIA的IMA是怎样的呢，能有连接吗？
作者: constantinople    时间: 2010-10-30 11:09
没找到，倒找到了一个什么造潜艇的软件。貌似很强大。PTC为什么不把它给集成进来呢？？[attach]1044795[/attach]
作者: chinalgw    时间: 2010-10-30 11:11
constantinople 发表于 2010-10-30 11:09
没找到，倒找到了一个什么造潜艇的软件。貌似很强大。PTC为什么不把它给集成进来呢？？1044795


PTC收购的，叫做CADDS。不可能的，集成一个OSD就够他们头大了
作者: constantinople    时间: 2010-10-30 11:21
那这个CADDS好用吗 用得多吗 与pro/e UG比有什么有什么优点缺点。哪里有试用和下载？
作者: chinalgw    时间: 2010-10-30 11:26
constantinople 发表于 2010-10-30 11:21
那这个CADDS好用吗 用得多吗 与pro/e UG比有什么有什么优点缺点。哪里有试用和下载？


我没用过，但是肯定不怎么好用，UG也能用来做造船，Newport News, IHI, Electronical Boat都用UG来造船。UG也正在加强自己的造船模块。

不过CADDS是专业的造船工具，市场占有率仅次于Tribon。
作者: thewaterman    时间: 2010-10-30 12:17
强烈期待啊，用了这么多年的proe，终于可以改变一下了
作者: L'Hopital    时间: 2010-10-30 13:11
constantinople 发表于 2010-10-30 11:21
那这个CADDS好用吗 用得多吗 与pro/e UG比有什么有什么优点缺点。哪里有试用和下载？

死了这条心吧，CADDS是UNIX上用的
作者: wrw830820    时间: 2010-10-30 15:21
PTC将对现有设计软件产品系列和相关模块，扩展和软件包重新命名，并与每款产品的功能保持一致。

　　- Pro/ENGINEER 将成为Creo Elements/Pro

　　- CoCreate 将成为Creo Elements/Direct

　　- ProductView 将成为Creo Elements/View
作者: htyysl    时间: 2010-10-30 15:45
啥时候PROE也能有框选就好了
作者: xiaotong    时间: 2010-10-30 20:22
顶一下。真是好。
作者: kuangshi2009    时间: 2010-10-30 20:38
什么时候才有试用版下载
作者: Mcuikai    时间: 2010-10-30 21:20
那个cadds是买的cv公司的，当时同时还有winchill，proe的加工就是从它上面切下来缝上去的。不过快十年好像ptc都没有怎么发布cadds新版本，说是现在除了ptc的前线销售人员感兴趣之外基本上都快销声匿迹了，感觉ptc也没在它身上花什么力气啊，现在cadds的市场被catia吞噬的比较厉害，估计ptc是计划放弃它了！
作者: Mcuikai    时间: 2010-10-30 21:22
8# constantinople

开思视频就有啊，那个像捏泥巴一样的外观设计工具，可以去瞧瞧！
作者: kevin8    时间: 2010-11-5 21:14
实在不明白。。。。
作者: cdh.2007    时间: 2010-11-10 12:44
wyf0710 发表于 2010-10-29 23:02
看好细分建模，类似烤鸭IMA，就差油鸡木有类似功能了

??????????????
作者: cdh.2007    时间: 2010-11-10 12:47
貌似很强大。
作者: chenchanghaiii    时间: 2010-11-10 16:02
PROE真能集成OSD就很强大的真正的。参数化和非参化结合，
作者: cdh.2007    时间: 2010-11-11 19:54
貌视很牛啊。。。。。。
作者: kgdwph    时间: 2010-11-15 00:57
软件下来以后就知道有没有啦
作者: xiongge123    时间: 2010-11-27 14:38
期待出来，改革PROE
作者: zsh02    时间: 2010-11-28 20:55
期待。。。。。。。。。。。
作者: leshan001    时间: 2010-11-30 13:23
chinalgw 发表于 2010-10-30 11:26


我没用过，但是肯定不怎么好用，UG也能用来做造船，Newport News, IHI, Electronical Boat都用UG来造船。UG也正在加强自己的造船模块。

不过CADDS是专业的造船工具，市场占有率仅次于Tribon。


别逗了。UG的造船，自己都不怎么卖的。CADDS 5在中国是最NB的造船软件...巨贵，超难学....
作者: SEIMON    时间: 2010-12-19 23:33
软件下来以后就知道有没有啦
作者: luihaijian    时间: 2010-12-21 17:48
感觉ptc终于有点创新的产品了，希望能再续proe的辉煌！
作者: xiamen_guo    时间: 2010-12-22 09:40
加工不变，莫设不变，很难有起色
作者: tangqiao56    时间: 2010-12-23 21:45
那个拉扯命令很不错，CATIA的IMA更好用些，拉点造型就是捏泥巴，UG也有拉扯的命令，叫X成型，可以直接拉扯实体面和曲面，但美中不足的是一次只能拉一个面或者是镜像面，不能像CATIA的IMA，整体拉扯造型
作者: xuzz    时间: 2011-1-1 20:07
确实比较吸引眼球啊
作者: luihaijian    时间: 2011-1-10 18:40
感觉ptc终于有点创新的产品了，希望能再续proe的辉煌
作者: yudw    时间: 2011-1-10 19:09
有竞争才有进步,希望这次PTC的新产品能引起CAD软件的重大变革风潮
作者: Mcuikai    时间: 2011-1-10 21:27
ug的xform应该对应得是proe里面的freeform吧，在曲面上编辑点的位置。不过貌似没什么人用啊。



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